I AM HERE. Martin Luther.

I have come merely to remind you that I am waiting to continue my discourse to my people. I am very anxious to do this and, as soon as you get in condition, I hope that you will give me the opportunity.

(When would you like to resume?)

Well, we will arrange that. All that we desire is for you to get in condition. We are with you a great deal and try to assist you in every way possible.

(Can you tell me whether or not Jesus was born with the actual Substance of God comprising his being, as the Bible declares?)

Well, you have asked me a question that I should like to have more time in which to answer than I have now. But, in short, Jesus was not of the Substance of God in the sense that the Catholic church, following the Nicene Creed, claimed. He took on a part of the Divine Substance as the Divine Love filled his soul. And so can you or any other man do this to the extent that you may receive this Love. But to say that Jesus was, in his very being, of the Substance of the Father to that degree that made him equal to God is erroneous, and should not be taught or believed in. He was born or created in the likeness of God in the way that has been explained to you, and in no other. He was a man and not God, or any part of Him. And if he had not received the Divine Love into his soul, he would never have been of the Substance of the Father. But being of a very spiritual nature and, in fact, so much so that he was without sin, this Love commenced to come into his soul very early—from his very birth, as you may say. And, at the time of his anointing, he was so filled with It that you may say that he was of the Substance possessed of the Divine Nature. He was no more divine, though, naturally, as I may say, than was any other mortal born of the flesh. I should like to write you a long message on this subject, and will sometime when convenient.

(Can you also enlighten me concerning the church’s claims about the Eucharist?)

WELL, ALL THE SPECULATION THAT HAS EVER EXISTED AS TO THE EUCHARIST, RELATING TO THE CHANGE IN THE QUALITIES OF THE BREAD AND WINE, IS UNTRUE. JESUS IS NOT IN THESE ELEMENTS IN ANY PARTICULAR OR VIEW THAT MAY BE TAKEN. HIS FLESH AND BLOOD WENT THE WAY OF ALL FLESH AND BLOOD OF MORTALS, AND NO MORE FORMS A PART OF THE BREAD AND WINE THAN DOES YOUR FLESH AND BLOOD.

THIS “SACRAMENT,” AS IT IS CALLED, IS VERY ABHORRENT TO THE MASTER; AND, WHEN IT IS CELEBRATED, I MUST TELL YOU THAT HE IS NOT PRESENT, NEITHER IN FLESH AND BLOOD NOR IN HIS SPIRITUAL PRESENCE. HE DISLIKES ANY KIND OF WORSHIP WHICH PLACES HIM, AS ITS OBJECT, IN THE POSITION OF GOD, OR AS THE SON OF GOD WHO PAID A GREAT DEBT BY HIS SACRIFICE AND DEATH. HE WANTS GOD, ALONE, TO BE WORSHIPED, AND HIMSELF TO BE THOUGHT OF ONLY AS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IMMORTALITY AND LIFE TO LIGHT BY HIS TEACHINGS, AND BY THE LIVING DEMONSTRATION OF THE TRUTH OF THE EXISTENCE OF THE DIVINE LOVE IN HIMSELF.

HE DOES NOT APPROVE OF THE TEACHINGS OF MEN THAT HIS DEATH AND HIS BLOOD WERE THE MEANS OF MAN BEING SAVED FROM THEIR SINS AND BECOMING RECONCILED TO GOD. HE SAYS IT WAS HIS LIVING, AND TEACHINGS, AND DEMONSTRATIONS OF THE LOVE OF GOD EXISTING IN HIS OWN SOUL THAT SHOWED THE ONLY TRUE WAY TO SALVATION.

But, I must not write more now. So, with my love, I will say good night.

Your brother in Christ,

MARTIN LUTHER.